We are posting one of our recent live chats, it covered some good questions and felt it could help to answer some questions others may have:
Visitor 7:38:58 PM
im looking for a panic bar and exterior handle for my shop entrance door to replace the one we now have.
Matt 7:40:20 PM
is your current surface mount?
Matt 7:40:35 PM
do you have a knob or lever handle?
Visitor 7:41:09 PM
I surface mounted with a lever
Matt 7:42:12 PM
Matt 7:42:25 PM
Visitor 7:42:33 PM
is the 4000FR suitable
Matt 7:43:20 PM
The FR stands for Fire Rated, unless your exterior wall is a fire break between your building and a building close by it is unnecessary
Matt 7:44:36 PM
Fire Rating is mistakenly purchased for safety purposes thinking that it would be good to have one resistant to fire. However if you were trapped inside you would want the bar to fail quickly so the door would be free swinging and you could run through. Fire Rated holds it closed in a fire, preventing the spread of fire to other buildings or wings
Visitor 7:44:42 PM
ok so which panic bar would be best to go with the handle you suggested
Matt 7:44:48 PM
Matt 7:45:31 PM
or if you want it to have a UL rating: http://www.panicexitpro.com/product_detail_2538_1316.aspx
Visitor 7:46:22 PM
that’s a more heavy duty model?
Matt 7:46:41 PM
the only difference between the two is one they paid to have the $30K testing done. The other is built the same but with a knob dogging so it would need new testing for a UL rating and they didn’t deem it worth it since the two bars are so alike
Matt 7:47:25 PM
so basically they are the same bar, one with allen ky dogging, the other with knob, but if you need the UL cert for code you go with the 1000 series
Visitor 7:48:06 PM
ok so with either model when the door is unlocked with the exterior key, customers can enter with no problem
Matt 7:51:01 PM
correct. When the exterior handle is unlocked anyone can walk up and turn the handle and open the door. Further to that, since they both have dogging you could activate the dogging feature and leave the door free swinging so you don’t need to turn the handle at all. This is primarily used on heavy use doors with a pull handle on the outside and a door closer on the inside (like a restaurant – they typically dog their doors during business hours, the door closer keeps them closed and when you pull on the door it freely opens) With the exterior handle, typically you do not put it in dogging mode, you just unlock it and they turn the handle and pull the door open like any other door in a building